Smith device with my MM175 says

The Smith device with my MM175 says to specifically use a .032" orifice. The dial gauges if im not mistaken are diaphram style restrictor (acting like a regulater). Yes you can have a blockage without a leak, in which case the peashooter will read exactly the same as the bottle flowmeter. If you Buy It Now, you'll only be purchasing this item. And yes you can set up the back purge with a quick brass tee and a small brass valve. Great seller to deal with. But if you are tring to run 2 sets of equitment off the same gas just get another tank so you have a back up tank . When you trigger an arc the diaphram will sense the extra need for volume, of gas, and compensate. I am about to drop 175 bucks for the dual setup from tigdepot. But for the average person there is no diffrence. to make my cooler tank from stainless and thought it would be a good idea to start learning to backpurge. That in itself should make no difference but it seems to, possibly because there is more hose for the gas to have to travel through so possibly more pressure build up which then leads to more leaks along the way. https://www.weldequip.com/gas-flow-tester.htm. You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly. This seems to be a simple question but I don't know the answer. Correction the boyancy of air would lesson the weight at sea level.. but again it's just one of many factors that need to be taken into account for measurement accuracy and measurement uncertainty statements. View cart for details. I use one of these cheapos on my Lincoln 255: If you are ever going to use it portable the gauges are generally tougher. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Could it be that "flowgauge" is their name for this device which is a regulator which reads in CFH based on known orifice size? I can't help with the back purge question, but if flow meters were bad, the high end machines would not come with them. Barry, I'm curious how you have that rigged. Cost is less than half of a flow meter, that's why almost all machines are shipped with a flow gauge. with the ball style, you have a valve, after the intergral pressure regulator, that restricts the flow by causing a smaller hole for gas to flow through, and you are stuck with a constant amount of flow(15 cfm, for exc). Go get a $70-$100 victor, harris or smith name brand flowgauge regulator setup either online or at a different weld shop and you will be good to go. I like the readability of the ball. BUT they sure aren't as cheap as what you are pricing. check out the. However i really would love to the dual setup. I always thought the dial on the reg outlet is a pressure gauge, not a flow meter? I'm getting ready (if time will allow!!) For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. went into the welding shop for a set of gauges and was suggested for home use all i needed was a flow meter. Probably there, but I am at a loss. Surely the dial on the regulator is accurate enough? The item you've selected was not added to your cart. Press J to jump to the feed. You can't have one without the other surely. I have both flow gauges and flow meters, but the gauges are in my welding cabinet. I would say repetablitly is probably more important than absolute accuracy on a gauge anyway? best that you don't try to modify it. What do you make one with? buy the thing its only 165 and youll probably save that, after driving around and shopping for different fittings etc etc. .. the little ball looks really cool floating in the tube! I think flow meters are the way to go, except when faced with the position youre in. Warning if you are running straight C02, not all flowgauges are rated for C02. Thanks for the confirmation. On the MIG you have one size nozzle for your style of torch. it's tempting, since i'll have a drop available to bring argon to my MIG. welding shop had an off brand for 60 bucks and he said there was no need to spend anymore unless i wanted to jump to the 200+ range. only shop in town and my bottle is 75/25 argon co2. Flowgauge reading when the solenoid is open with low restrictions down stream is ok. When you trigger an arc the diaphram will sense the extra need for volume, of gas, and compensate. I was hoping to save some gas with it but alas no. It's true hard work never killed anyone, but why take a chance? Seller assumes all responsibility for this listing. I found the adjustment knob at the top of the meter closed. Your welder should not be enough restriction at normal flow rate to cause problem as your only flowing about 30 cubic feet per hour. I have a few expenses coming up and if a 10-20 dollar fitting will save 165 its worth it. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I'm assuming that there is something wrong with this flow meter, but I wanted to get an opinion if I was operating it incorrectly, or if I can fix it if it is broken. I searched the archives, but couldn't find the info I am looking for. You must log in or register to reply here. I will try and do some tests today but I have always found that I need more flow on the flow meter to get the desired output from the torch. than a conventional rotameter or tapered flow gauge? If you have a flow gauge, don't rush out to get a meter unless you just want one. The dial gauges if im not mistaken are diaphram style restrictor (acting like a regulater). Some flow gauges are set for a certain delivery and some are adjustable VIA the tee handle. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I have both; meter looks better, gauge works fine. You must log in or register to reply here. the gauges were std hobart for 70 or 80 bucks i believe. If I weld at this point, the welder acts like there is no gas present (spitting, stuttering, etc). Sundown. it would make some difference, but I don't believe noticable in a gauge setup for your purpose. I'm sure my meager welding skills will not be adversely affected by a lesser regulator. Miller Trailblazer 302, Spoolmatic 30A, Suitcase 12RC, And more machinery than you can shake a 7018 rod at, http://www.tigdepot.com/products/p34-196AR-60.htm, If this is your first visit, be sure to Still not convinced you can be sure its more accurate, but I expect if the two read the same, ergo, everything is good. Different manufactures use different size orifice. A replacement flow meter is $90 - $95 which is about 2/3 the cost of the entire unit. The welds improved, but there is gas leaking constantly from the adjustment knob. Someone will have to explain how this peashooter on the torch meadures gas flow more accurately (better?) I bought a flowmeter for my 180sd and use the flowgauge that came with it for backpurge. You are using an out of date browser. My welding suppy uses copper tube. When you go to weld you will have half of the intened flow neccasary(if equal conditions exist in both exits). But you can adjust the flow meter a little more accurate since we run so many welders we use flow meters so we can dial them down as low as possible to save gas. Regulated pressure is adjusted to get desired flow rate. This page was generated at 08:57 PM. If you have a dial type you can T off that at the output and run one side to the inside of the tank, and the other to your gas solenoid. Anyone else with experience with this will most assuradly say otherwise.. does some one make a manifold that will mount 2 regulator/flowmeters ? I know you understand but I should have been clearer in the first post. The subreddit for welders, machinists and all other enthusiasts of joining two things together. A peashooter is best, it shows how much gas flow is exiting the shroud/nozzle: keep your shroud clean, spatter build up can disrupt this flow, or cause the gas to swirl and induct non inert gases into the weld pool: Sample of one but my peashooter flow meter and regulator dial match each other perfectly. Something went wrong. Your LWS sounds like a moron. Changing torch cups on a TIG torch requires tweaking of the gas flow CFH. I think I'll take a look at the more traditional regulators and save myself some coin. Are you running mixed gas or straight C02? If this is wrong, the experts will correct me, but I think this is what's really there. Well, I run flow meters on both my Mig and Tig setups. Now I am talking Mig here with an 8m push pull gun. All times are GMT-6. Only if you're in a light breeze with no shielding would you want to use more gas. Item received just as described. I bought a tee-fitting that goes into the tank outlet. Plus you don't have to look around behind you to check. A flow meter is much more accurate but for home use a regulator is fine in my opinion. One thing sets it apart. Regulator dials are not that accurate for flow, I use flowmeters on my welders and they vary quite a bit from the dial, a peashooter is a cheap way of setting flow, to use it with a mig you'll need to temporarily flip the tension roller off to disable the wire feed. I have a couple of questions and hope you guys can help me. Stupid question I'm sure but do you really need a flow meter on your regulatlor? After messing about with beer systems for a few years then I can confirm the length of the hose does make a difference due to the back pressure of what's already in the tube and the resistance from the tube itself. Hobart Handler 210 w/DP3035 - Great 240V small Mig, Miller Dynasty 200DX with cooler of my design, works for me, If this is your first visit, be sure to The tank is equipped with one of these: I have not used one of these before and I'm not sure I'm using it correctly, or if it's malfunctioning (I cannot find a manual for it either). Splitting hairs, but there are very real differences. Copyright 1995-2022 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. please post pics/PN's. It will give a very approximate reading of flow but nothing like as accurate as a proper flow meter. This page was generated at 09:57 PM. JavaScript is disabled. Add to cart to save with this special offer. http://www.harborfreight.com/regulator-gauge-94841.html. Set it at the minimum that will produce good welds and leave it there. Actually, it is a flow gaugeand not a regulator. If it's leaking around the adjustment knob it is bad either have it rebuilt or buy a new one. JavaScript is disabled. It's CGA rated for shielding gas pressures (3000# rating). i got the bottle filled and held off on the rest of the purchase. All times are GMT-6. Argon CO2 Mig Tig Flow Meter Regulator Welding Gas Welder Gauge with 10'Gas Hose, - eBay Money Back Guarantee - opens in a new window or tab, - for PayPal Credit, opens in a new window or tab, Learn more about earning points with eBay Mastercard, - eBay Return policy - opens in a new tab or window, - eBay Money Back Guarantee - opens in a new tab or window. If you'd like to get the additional items you've selected to qualify for this offer. Some manufactures use different size orifice for different models of flow-gages. It will work for most settings on the welder. This is my take on it any ways,I have no bases for this theory, only the appearance of the style of devises described. Well ,were I work we run 12 mig welders 16 hrs a day and there is no wasted gas between flow meter or gauge. About the easiest way to set up a back-purge, using two flowmeters. The ball in the flowmeter sits at the bottom of the tube . Thanks. With the gas on, The gauge reads 80psl, which seems correct. Flow- Gage uses a LP gage calibrated to indicate flow rate through specified sized down stream orifice in regulator outlet fitting. Blockages and leaks. I set the meter to 20cfm (as recommended). I would rather just use my mig and tig flow gauges with a T then spend 200 bucks. check out the. Argon CO2 Mig Tig Flow Meter Regulator Welding Gas Welder Gauge with 10'Gas Hose, {"modules":["unloadOptimization","bandwidthDetection"],"unloadOptimization":{"browsers":{"Firefox":true,"Chrome":true}},"bandwidthDetection":{"url":"https://ir.ebaystatic.com/cr/v/c1/thirtysevens.jpg","maxViews":4,"imgSize":37,"expiry":300000,"timeout":250}}, Recent sales price provided by the seller. I recently purchased a used Hobart MIG welder and tank. If you have a dial type you can T off that at the output and run one side to the inside of the tank, and the other to your gas solenoid. That tells me it is really a regulator measuring pressure and converting to flow on the dial. Ok, set the flow meter on the Tig, it has an 8m WP20, to 10lpm on the flow meter and tested with 3 different peashooters, all came out as close as I could say to 10lpm. Just trying to spend my funds wisely. The manufacturer set the flow meter/flow gauge for the equipment.

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