hayward pool heater won't stay on

Hi Bob, Itll te you how to check and replace. $3000 for a heater and now annual service calls? If possible, replace the motor with a larger one. Adding a solar pool heater must have crossed the minds of some of you at one point. I also remembered that when I opened the pool for him this spring that I found the heater drain plugs still in place. Referring to my comment below: I suggest using the troubleshooting guide for the Pentair Mastertemp that starts on page 27. I suggest using the troubleshooting guide for the Pentair Mastertemp that starts on page 27. Theres a lot of videos out there about it. When problem started happening last early last year, one of the thing I did was replaced a broken Jandy check valve between the heater and chlorinator. I only found 1 small stone stuck inside where the bypass is. Does the display look as it should while it is starting up? I suspect maybe its the flame sensor? Leak stopped. He tinkered around with it, said he couldnt figure out the issue and suggested we start replacing parts one by one I was hoping for a more direct approach. Honestly, this is a very common occurrence. No cracks. When it is 25 degrees below zero, your hair freezes! I would appreciate any information to fix this problem. Both situations are very common. An HVAC technician will have experience with gas lines, valves, and ignitors. This heater (Hayward H400FDN) would light and then shut down after a couple of seconds. If so, then the proving signal is not getting back to the PC Board. Rotate the knob to the PILOT position and press and hold the knob down. 3-5 different H200 models have varying firing processes. I have the same heater. This is my go-to heat pump model. This weekend, when I finally had time to work on it, I see there is no power to the display at all: no service light, no heater light, no light or display of any kind. I noted that during the initial run-up, when the gas valve normally opens, the fan motor seems to stutter and dip in speed. Try bypassing your filter and run it and see if it stays on. Pentair 470190 Water Pressure Switch Replacement Pool and Spa Heater. As far as doing this for someone else, no way would I be doing that unless I had the proper training and insurance in place. It was enjoyable during Montana winters. You have to open up the heater to find where the leak is coming from. All indicator lights go out and nothing I do makes them light up. It kept doing this several times and then sometimes the temp will start counting up rapidly and slowly counts down to the current temp and cycles again. Test the voltage reading on thepressure switch with a multimeter. If the heater has recently been installed, the first thing that must be checked is the gas pressure. Water The spa is about 500+ gallons of water. Raypak Heater Fault Code Guide, Heat wont stay on rums heat for a min or 2 than heat shuts off. This is why you hire a person that can check the gas pressure at the heater. My igniiton clicks, but then it fails to heat pas this point, sigh. There are also videos about this. The unit must be plugged into. yes, my sprinklers hit the top of the hayward panel, putting some water in the exhaust and my heater wont work for a day or two until it drys out.. John, I am having the same problem. Removed it and plugged the fitting hole. I have a Hayward Easy Temp heater. If you yourself in this scenario, this blog article is for you. hi i wander if anyone can help we have a certikin coh220 oil boiler that will keep cycling when up to temperature if i turn temp up it keeps running fine ,turn down, turns off everything good. The IDL2 is dual voltage and can operate on either 120VAC or 240VAC. how can I tell if its bad ? I have a Raypak RP2100 heater. The clicking, indicates that the ignitor is sparking and the heater is trying to fire, but the gas and the spark" are not reaching each other. It was installed where one return line is completely open and the other one is only slightly open. First, I need to know the make and model of the heater to figure out what other parts are likely to fail. wind broke my umbrella pole at the base IN pool. It clicks, but will not light. It would be a detriment in my opinion. Thanks a bunch. Turn the gas valve knob to the ON position. I don't know how to test it so I ordered one from Amazon. Everything started up just fine at that point and functioned normally for 2 months until the above issues. The 2nd is after modified the 3-port valve to the return lines. Before it arrived the heater began to operate normally. Any new postings here are unlikely to be seen or responded to by other members. Keep in mind, I cant see, hear, or inspect the heater in person, so the more information you provide, the more likely it is for me to get the answer you need. I connected my old termistor and got a reading of 85 degrees. No code is present. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Still, I like it! So its been a month or more that it was running. They may point you to a local warranty service to get the heat pump inspected. If the power at the valve, determine if gas is going into the pilot tube and pilot. It fires up fine again then the same thing happens. Check the Thermal regulator. He's got a 2 year old Hayward H250FDN. Regardless, the FIRST thing to do is what Steve and the Hayward tech suggested - may sure everything is cleaned out. Please help! I tested the pressure switch and the over temp sensor as good. On-site inspection is the key to troubleshooting. 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Hi, Where is this switch located. Then it sounds like you need to have a tech come to take a look at it. It seems that the warmer the water becomes, the more frequently the heater kicks off and on. Thanks. The heater only comes on if its turned all the way up. While holding the knob down, press in the click-lite 3-4 times. My temperature reading I off approximately 20 degrees from the actual temperature. Hayward tech (after a long wait on hold) suggested cleaning the manifold and orifices. And it says low pressure switch. It could be due to less obvious issues. I showed him during the opening and told him that he may have a big problem when we turn the pump on shortly. Basically, it is an expensive toy with which you will eventually get bored. Again, I am experiencing the same issue from last fall. We are a registered 501(c)3 non-profit that is funded by user donations. The heater works the SHUTS off given a LO ERROR. As far as adding to resale value of your home, I would disagree. Why do I have to frequently re-light the pilot? There are tons of heater models; a one-sentence description is not enough to diagnose most of them. Are there any diagnostic LEDs lit or flashing? ps0303 - how about opening up an Ohio branch? Inspect these parts for corrosion, scaling, and/or any electrolysis issues. I blew out the manifold with compressed air without removing the valve as it appeared to be tightly glued to the manifold. It may be a sensor issue but there should also be codes flashing as well. I also noticed that the flap wasnt opening even at 3450rpm and 20-25psi. Right now I suspect that the low-voltage transformer may be defective, but Im curious if anyone else has seen these symptoms. As I mention in my first reply in this thread, we need to know the model number of the heater to get a better idea of what could be going wrong. I kind of took my time & added pieces, as I got used to the use & flow pattern. I have a Hayward H100ID. Make sure you have installed the temperature sensor correctly and it is in good condition. I would rip up all the carpet and the builder-grade tile and replace with wood-look porcelain tile. Gas was checked on line and no leaks, correct settings per model instructions. The pilot generator may be bad and not able to get hot enough to supply sufficient voltage to operate the heater. Pressure testing gas lines may seem like an easy job, but to do it properly requires the right equipment and knowledge of what you are expecting to see. It may not display this or other websites correctly. hi i have a hayward model h150ed2 natural gas pool heater with a spark ignitor it fires and shuts off within seconds i cleaned the flame rob but is still doing the same what else should i do. I had this same problem. What power supply do I need for my H100/ABG? Days later, theyre suddenly working again. A spring cleaning is not expensive and will certainly help to resolve minor issues. When it turns off it also turns the pilot flame off. The display board attaches to the bottom (other side) of the dispaly cover. Pentair 350. Is the heater hooked up to an automated control or is it standalone? Increasing pressure goes hand in hand with the decrease of water flow. If you are running your variable speed pump on the low setting, make sure you meet the minimum GPMs for your heater. Im going to work on this some more tomorrow. Unfortunately, neither one of us have x-ray vision. Has it just rained? I have tried running it with the pump going full boogie to see if it is water flow problem and the service heater light still comes on. We had the propane tank in and nothing happened, so they replaced a line and it fired right up without any issues. Your pool pump only moves a certain number of GPMs, therefore, too many water features can dramatically decrease your water flow. I have a Raypak gas heater. I also developed very dry, itchy skin from using the tub. Hayward pool heater won't stay lit. Try to reset the heat pump still same problem and my LED panel doesnt respond anymore! For operation, heaters require a minimum GPM flow. it will kick back on when I get the pilot lit again but turns off again. I can understand that there are people out there (like my neighbor) that wouldn't even attempt to repair/replace components such as sensors, ignitors, thermistors, gas valves and ICB's on their own but I also wouldn't expect them to be in this forum asking specific questions like above. Make sure to keep your valves open as to not prevent the water flow. My neighbor's is not. Were you able to troubleshoot the problem?? Thank you. I have a Haywood electric heater it starts then stops. Over the past week, the heater fired up and heated just fine. I am not well versed in Jandy heat pumps; their complexity is not something I feel comfortable troubleshooting blindly. What power supply is required for IDL and IDL2? Looking for pool parts? This goes on and on until the heater finally meets its set temperature. Any suggestions? You must log in or register to reply here. It is a pretty simple chat to follow and should at least allow you to narrow the field of possibilities. Then when he left the heater started working! Poor water chemistry is one of the leading causes of equipment failure, especially pool heaters. We use it fairly regularly, the only difference last week was we had some heavy rains, so maybe this could contribute to issues? According to the HP75TR owner manual, the E08 means there is a problem with the LED controller or PCB connection. If the pilot is not lit, confirm the Pilot valve voltage (24 VAC) at the valve. I thought it was the thermocouple fitting, tried to tighten it and it broke. Verify that the local gas valve, located outside the heater and all valves supplying gas to the heater are open. Although, theres strong water coming out of the 2 return lines. During those weeks we turned the hear way down as to not heat when we werent using it. Only 5 months old is leaking out the bottom. Ive had my dining room since I moved out on my own in 81, and all the wood furniture in the living room is that vintage too, but the couch, love seat & chair w/ottoman are new to this house. Have you checked the circuit feeding the heater to make sure it is providing the proper voltage? Note: when the opened the manifold last winter to replace the bypass, the manifold and the heat coils have no signs of scales. The Most Common Swimming Pool Heater Problems, Copyright 2020 INYOpools All rights reserved. One possibility for the problem is that I had replaced a small section of the gas line at the meter. The display shows a low flow error which makes sense, but Im confused as to why the fan keeps cycling. Pentair Master Temp 400. While in the store getting ready to pay for a new one, a customer recommended a pool guy. But some of these other hated items may surprise you, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, A New Breed of Space Heaters Helps You Stay Toasty in Style. This is the reason most forums like this one exist. Your email address will not be published. IO Igniter open error If the control is not in lockout and senses that the igniter circuit is open when the blower is running the control will turn off the blower and go into lockout. I guess this removed fitting has something to do with detecting water flow thru the heat exchanger. This is an excerpt from the MasterTemp troubleshooting guide. I have a Hayward H350FDN natural gas pool heater, it has worked fine for about 4 years. Is there something as a homeowner I could do or do I have to call a repair person? Is the pilot lighting? I am not familiar with oil-fired heaters. If so, what did you do? Thanks! Hi, got a Hayward HP75TR, bout 3 years old now. Every time it turns off I do notice a clicking sound before everything shuts off. We always had a piano & I took lessons for years, but its my ear for music I depend on, because Im very poor at reading sheet music. Monitor your PSI reading on your filters pressure gauge. Are there any other signs when the heater shuts down? What would cause the temperature to rise so fast like that? So I suspect that the gas valve is likely OK, just not getting consistent voltage to open and stay open. Again, I thank you for your responses. My heater is working perfectly. I clean the filter. This manually opens the pilot diaphragm and sends gas to the pilot assembly. My previous heater lasted 20 years. I had a spare display board and swapped it with the same result. Maybe that air bubble worked it's way (about 100 feet) to the heater and started the (3 strikes and you're out - wait 60 minutes for a reset) mode. That would help go a long way in finding the solution. Might be a connection problem!! Haywards troubleshooting process relies a lot on flashing error codes, but they arent much help when either of the boards is out. I have a Pentair Master Temp 300 Pool Heater that is 6 years old. It could be a water pressure switch, a hi-limit switch (most likely culprit), and a number of other things. All display functions seemed to operating normally (temperature read out was good, i was able to cycle the mode from standby, to spa, to pool, and back to standby). Close water features, or alternate them, until the pool heats to the desired temperature. Hello , This is an inactive thread. Installing and troubleshooting a heater that is still under warranty without proper licensing can forfeit your warranty under the manufacturers terms and conditions. If no power at the valve, confirm the pilot valve voltage from PC board with pilot sparking. This is where my pool stops heating. Advice? My neighbor vacuumed them out while I was blowing out the manifold. The reason is simple: TFPC (Trouble Free Pool Care) is a methodology, not a product that you must purchase. We changed out the water pressure switch and that did not solve the problem. Here is what it does: These little buggers are expensive if you try to repair them yourself. For a pool your size, you will need a higher BTU size. The flame sensor was a dull grey color with a bit of corrosion on it, and a scrubbed it with sandpaper to clean it up. I hope this helps. The pool pump must be ON and your filter clean for the switch to close and allow voltage to pass through. How long after the flame goes out does the blower run? Once I replaced this I was able to see the lights again. Thank you for the response. Have you had it serviced this year? just happens when gets to correct temperature. LO Water Pressure Switch, Vent Pressure Switch, or Temperature Limit Switch Fault. You will get much more visibility by. A dirty filter can prevent a heater from firing and it can also cause your heater to shut off before warming the water to the desired temperature. I have a Pentair Heater. Ensure thepump basket and lid are in good conditions. If there is a leak you should see water under/around the heater. Raypak Classic Series Heat Pump 140,000 BTU 016033. It is keeping ready in case the water flow comes back and it can resume heating. Everyone who can afford a tub seems to want to try one, as they look very appealing in the commercials. Is this is a common problem?? Or, you might notice your heater isnt pushing out as much warm water as it should or used to. Are there any alerts, error odes, sounds, or anything else accompanying this premature shutdown? Everything works fine until after about 15 min, when the fan just blows cool air and there is no flame anymore. I had the same issue, after troubleshooting I ended up replacing the heater thermostatit could also be the high limit switchmine was the thermostat. Okay, Tony, I will ask the same question to you as well. Remove the basket and remove the debris with a hose. It has worked 2 months so far this summer with no issue but in the last few days it's not been working. Thank you both for the response. Check your pumps strainer basket. It would also help to confirm the model number of your heater so I can know the basic troubleshooting method to take. I replaced the temperature sensor and the circuit board. For the most part the maint of pools is pretty much straight forward. Going back to my original post I was asking if there was anything else I should look at before replacing the ICB since that was another significant cost for the neighbor. Is there a common thread between the times it does/doesnt work? Sometimes, your pool heater ignites but doesnt reach the desired temperature. Thank You! It is being practiced by thousands of pool owners just like you. Does it not work on especially warm or cold days? Any thoughts? Click here to shop our store. Ensure that the thermostat is set to a higher temperature than the current water temperature. Hello. The "techs" in my area are few and far between and our experiences with the ones that do service this area are less than desired. Ill keep you poste. If there is no gas coming from the energized pilot valve, replace valve. (2) Bad gas valve. There are no diagnostics LEDs that flash. The last time I tried to run it, wont fire up. My neighbor (with the heater problem) called the gas company as he suspected the gas lines might be a source of the problem. Don't get me wrong about DIY folks but when you get into areas like measuring gas pressure, a professional is best to hire. Dish-Drying Racks That Dont Hog Counter Space, How to Prepare for and Live With a Power Outage, 5 Remodels That Make Good Resale Value Sense and 5 That Dont, 10 Things People Really Dont Want in Their Homes. After maintaining it for several years, I just dreaded the upkeep and checking the chemicals and Ph frequently. If your heater is undersized, it will have problems heating your pool up. Sometimes, the places we grow up in can shield us from the realities of the rest of the world. Set your thermostat to a higher temperature. If you hire a tech, they will only charge you for the part that's bad. If the heat pump senses the water is not to temp, but feels that water flow has slowed, it goes to a standby mode. Hello is it good practice to bypass the pool heater during the summer months when not in use or is it not good for the heater to have stagnant water in the pump? Im sure the electrician did his best on the circuitry, but when dealing with a heater, you probably want to have an HVAC company take a look at the unit. This is very common after a period of non-use. Hold the knob down for a minute, so the pilot generator heats up, then release. Any thoughts on what I can do to further troubleshoot? That's what alerted me to it. Without gas, the heater wont operate. The switch to the heater is on. Do you have a flowmeter? It is strange that if nothing has changed since putting the heater in that all of a sudden this happens. It definitely adds to your power bill, but if you live in a warmer climate, that wouldn't be as much of a concern. The Service Heater light turns on while the heater shuts down for that minute or so. We had a high-end hot tub when our children were younger. What should I be looking for? There maybe spider webs in the pilot head, preventing the gas from getting to the sparker. The igniter has a bit of carbon build up but came off with my finger. I said "we'll see if that has any affect." No shocker there. Inspect your heat exchanger for chemical or sanitizer damage. Manufacturers equip swimming pool heaters with pressure sensors. Thank you again ps0303 and danpik. It doesnt sound like you have enough water flow. the pool place thinks it might be putting copper into my pool. Automatic restart 2 min after error is corrected. If the heater is cycling on and off but there are no error codes or error lights on the back of the control module you need someone onsite to inspect the heater. (Manual not electronic) I closed the pool. How do I check the pressure control. do i have to change my LED panel or the board itself inside?? Any other suggestions? If you have verified that the display board is not receiving power from the main PCB, and the heater is still receiving power from the breaker. Im lucky there was a perfect spot for the piano, and its not close to the windows. In order for a heater to operate smoothly and efficiently, its important that pool system maintains a consistent flow of water. If the supply valve is OFF, turn it ON. Does it not restart after its been in heavy use? Now in spring Im trying to get it to fire, but nothing.

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