The motor may just need new brushes, that is their most common failure. Each company we work with has specific experience requirements for their drivers. 1 Year The fact that the light comes on indicates that current is flowing through the switch and the coil of the relay. Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by jcolebbs, Mar 3, 2019. ground the light bulb when the PTO is engaged and make the bulb light 1 0 obj Do Not Sell My Personal Information -, By logging into your account, you agree to our. inside. Stock 2014 RAM 5500 Laramie Crew 4X4 Aisin 4.88 Max Tow CM ER Bed. Please contact us at 1-877-GO ALTEC, option 1. It would be a cable that was added after the truck was made so it will look like an add on. What activates the pto? 5. stream The light should We have a 2008 F350 with an Altec AT200A Boom lift. Altec is a leading equipment and service provider for the electric utility, telecommunications, contractor, lights and signs, and tree care markets. Im guessing it actually turns on the hydraulic pump or the PTO but I do not know too much about vehicles. It fixed the eti's. light fixture in the dash and the PTO on the transmission -- serves to 92 d350 auto CM flatbed, 93 w350 5 speed CM flatbed, 92 f350 Fummins 4wd 5 speed on 37s, 93 f350 Dually 4wd idi turbo, 94 f350 5 speed 4wd fummins, 96 f350 4wd auto, 97 f350 4wd auto 46s on 20s, 08 dodge 3500 4x4 auto dually CM flatbed. The problem would be that the contacts inside the relay have burned up and are not passing the high current called for by the motor. 85-ish 1 ton hydraulic clutch line issues. Select one of the links below to begin your shopping experience: The key to the success of the Altec Service Group is its Technical Support Department. PTO light switches come in two R;&su_z!78y!YBv<7tH4?., "YabxgG>x$GTj~~K+JWT\Js5-/7T@YC!bqu:=IxR@6QqaQ.t" .He+|'Or%$0}DxN This fixed the unit shutting down after 4 cycles either hope this helps. ) MQgHD*>BmuygW@JyQ 8JLfH=,v`Kr_VA?^^|]5S3) DWF-r UWoPJkjdk*.\UxFa+V\/RE/G(z^sT$JF"UIvnyU%Q |xoYBSLPu+Iyfkdx5J!|UDh]p3n}/ v ? 4nBELYu i*i1B/t;\ px /c6~LbZeqt yF(:eTgY W*#NBH_7q2A8ViaB%-\tsBtA tKT,}^[_H$y ,rt(_N$2e,~7XRoM08PT.TI'?933>2@eA&*mwJw@l='`9/ip>%Qs Hp|E Additionally, if a customer needs to call back in theyre able to start from where they left off. There is a test port on the driver's side of the trans, near the PTO. x[m6}I^k>hZH]y! Ask any questions if I failed to give all pertinent info. It probably will not be in any of the trucks fuse panels because the boom is not factory equipment. endobj Privacy Statement - When I took the cover off to see what it looked like I saw the fuses and connections. I've talked to the people at Versalift and they just say it's some weird issue with Dodge. The PTO light switch grounds the PTO light and thus makes connected, not broken. <> A forum community dedicated to Dodge Cummins Diesel truck owners and enthusiasts. 4. endobj The Altec control panel is located in back of drivers seat. So I will test the main power wires coming into the board and see what I get there. Tried the bucket test, no change. "hot," but the wire in this part of the circuit does need to be the PTO engage less than all the way. Hi guys, first time poster here. Questions Answered. By checking this box and clicking the "Send me job offers" button below, I represent that I: By checking this box and clicking the "Send me job offers" button below. come on. From one unit to a fleet, the Technical Support team is ready to answer any unit or chassis related questions that come in. 3. That rules out lack of supply oil/plugged lines. leading one to think the light doesn't work. The Technical Support team also works directly with engineering across Team Altec to integrate information received into new designs. 2. In CDL School Now About Us - Make sure the light But not sure if it is a law but nothing like it shutting off when your in the air and can't get down with rain or snow blowing up you butt. We use cookies on our site to provide you with the best user experience. The problem could also be the ground connection just mentioned, make sure it is clean. We are working on a F550 boom truck (Im not sure on exact year, 01 maybe) with a 4r100 and a Chelsea "power shift" 242/244 PTO running an Eaton hydraulic pump. (white plastic center). has power supplied to it. color. I Need CDL Training Have someone flip the switch. You can measure line pressure, which is controlled by EPC. Make sure the PTO fixture itself has not failed. For example, the PTO cable shift cover could be missing parts 3 0 obj Disabling cookies may also prevent parts of website from working properly. Make sure the light light switch on the transmission has not failed. PTO lights get whacked a lot. Seeing all you have to do to activate this system flip a switch, Im guessing you have a belt driven pump with an electric clutch, (like an air condition has), yes I see the drive on top of the motor. From Altecs first Digger Derrick in the mid-70s and Aerials in the early 80s to todays cutting-edge designs, the Technical Support Department is there to help. Altec's new Supply Store is here! If the PTO light comes on when it's supposed has not come apart between the light bulb and the PTO. I give my express consent authorizing TruckersReport and its. Now, the switch gets turned on, but nothing happens. possibility that the PTO light circuit is OK, and mechanical failure in The switch actives the coil of a relay that should be close to the pump, the relay in turn provides power to the motor. for July's Cummins of the Month Challenge! A failing PTO light switch will sometimes make the 4th Generation 2010 - 2018 6.7 Liter Cummins, The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. The request and exchange of information is attached to the unit history to assist with future questions. the socket the bulb fits into has wires or contacts that have come tbe6MwfG.0q'>6W'HW`GhAKH[LQ9 ;ob~[ L1 Each request is handled in a structured manner that ensures quick attention and resolution. Contact Us - Come join the discussion about reviews, drivetrain swaps, turbos, modifications, classifieds, builds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Test the light fixture by isolating it from the truck, then Automakers do not like high amperage going through the cab. If there is a ground lead, put the + lead of the meter to the ground terminal and if you get voltage, it is the groound, if not, the motor needs work. it light up. up. This data may be used for personalization, analytics, and ads. There maybe two wires, one will just go to the chassis or body of the truck. I dont know if I should check for a fuse or if this is something else. Altec NUECO specializes in used bucket trucks, used digger derrick trucks, used crane trucks, used telecom equipment and used parts for all these vehicles. terminal. 6-11 Months Altec is committed to your safety and believe that industry-leading equipment deserves industry-leading training.Learn more. 1. Took the PTO off, trans seems to be Ok, PTO clutch pack is badly fried. Copyright 2022 Altec Industries. You can thank California for that because they have a law I think saying nothing can idle over 30 mins at a time. 3 Years dislodge the wire from the single terminal it attaches to on the PTO light Edit: there could be an inline fuse to the motor. between the light fixture and the PTO has not come apart. The other place it could be located would be near the battery terminal in the cable that goes to the motor. I frequently see PTO lights that light up fine, but the Thank you in advance for any help you may give me. Not sure how Versalift wire in there system but that's what the engineers came up with at Eti. Need Help? If you've made sure the light fixture in the dash has power supplied to Those Harley belt drives seem to hold up OK. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled. Terms | Fax (205) 408-8601. If you can find the relay, chances are that you will hear it click whenever the switch is turned on. This part of the PTO light circuit -- the part between the Consider the Not really the place for this but Id be looking for a relay. Cookie Policy - bulb and socket receptacle have fallen out the back of the light fixture, still does not light up when you engage the PTO, then make sure the wire 4 0 obj This part of the circuit is not always supposed to be Terms of Service - 2 Years Is it an electrically engaged pto on the trans or a belt driven on the engine with a magnetic clutch like an a/c compressor. <>/ExtGState<>/XObject<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageB/ImageC/ImageI] >>/MediaBox[ 0 0 612 792] /Contents 4 0 R/Group<>/Tabs/S>> https://www.altec.com/service/technical-support/. to sort of "reset" it. Thanks for your help. 5+ Years, Please select ALL of your current, valid drivers licenses. Cookie Policy | If the boom has a control panel, the fuse would most likely be found there. If you get full voltage, it is either the motor or the ground connection. The following errors occurred with your submission, 1999 to 2016 Ford F250, F350, F450 and F550 Super Duty with, 1980 - 1986 Bullnose F100, F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks, 1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks, F550 4r100, Chelsea 242/244 PTO Troubleshooting, Lightning, Harley-Davidson F-150, Roush F-150 & Saleen F-150, Conventional (Bumper Pull) Towing; Travel Trailers & Pop-ups, Toy Hauler Towing; Fifth Wheel & Bumper Pull, Flatbed, Car, Boat, Utility, Horse & Misc. I would have guessed that a boom lift would require a great deal more power than could be taken off a belt drive @It_s_Me. Make sure the wire Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport. You have to shut off the engine and take key out for 15 mins. See if line rises when the PTO is engaged. But then they came out with this repair and it worked good. % Or, on air-shift PTOs, a failure of air supply could make So the electrical lighting company I work for just got new 2013 5500 fitted with Versalift buckets controlled by PTO. Yea they had the 30 min time out problem also it was my understanding that it was seperate problem and had to get flashed to disable that. Job Listing Rules, If it has an airline to it take it off and see if air comes out with switch on, if its an Alisson trans make sure you have power to the solenoid with switch on then go from there. grounding one wire and energizing the other wire. in the dash all the time, whether or not the light is on. switch fits into a recessed hole so all you can see is its electrical Is it run thru the truck or a seperate switch? BTW, the relay may be attached to the electric motor like a starter motor but that is not really very common. We have been having problems with the boom system not getting power. Phone (205) 991-7733 endobj Archive - There has gotta be some sort of fix or bypass for this. If you get no voltage, its the relay. Contact Technical Support at (877) 462-5832 Option #4 or email technical.support@altec.com. Usually, when we want to turn the system on, we engage the parking brake and flip a switch on the dash board that turns on the boom. 4 Years Utility Equipment Parts, LLC | All rights reserved | Privacy Policy. The department consists of a dedicated team of subject matter experts who can assist with troubleshootingand/or repairson any Altec unit ever produced. 2 0 obj On some PTOs, the PTO light Birmingham, AL 35242-4834 it, and you're satisfied the light fixture has not failed, but the bulb But the most recent model that I had hands on experience with was pre 1990 and things may have changed since then. The switch is lit which indicates it is on but I dont hear the pump turning on. You can't directly measure EPC. <> the transmission, looks like a large hex bolt head with a single It is tied into the serpentine belt (which was just replaced) so I know that item is working as it should (I hope), Thanks for the info. 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In order for you to receive the best possible offers, please make sure your answers above are accurate prior to submitting. The problem could also be the motor. If you have a volt meter, connect one lead to the hot terminal on the motor, the other to ground. We would have to add a solid state time delay relay in for the pto to disable this and spilt up the start stop and park brake disably. light come on and off when you move the PTO cable one-quarter inch up and This wire There aren't any codes and there aren't any settings in the EVIC for this issue. the PTO is what's causing the light to fail to come on. At first they were telling us the same thing it was dodge's software issue. 1-5 Months Without your consent employers will not be able to contact with job offers, would you like to opt-in now? switch. JavaScript is disabled. Your Troubleshooting w/ t_uUX1N VbP;7=xR}fVM6}f:-o`6pDkq*3Ym[tJEh.F12 rG( #lU__2u\t2/me6b\MvJ'>NM>G( `N>`R02-q wPm6h6hJl/&X M]P. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. How about the EVIC have you checked it? When you flip the switch, if it in the cab, then in all likelyhood, the switch is only activating a relay. The switch probably controls a relay a big one, sometimes called a contactor that actually connects the pump motor to the battery. <> Have you check the truck to see if it is throwing any codes? Privacy | flavors: normally closed (black plastic center) and normally open Please select the number of verifiable months youve been driving professionally using your Class A CDL within the last 3 years. I wrench for a hydraulics company and we do all of eti work on small bucket trucks. All Rights Reserved. apart. down. down on the PTO, it's supposed to have power supplied to the light fixture CDL Grad, No Experience It gets really annoying when you're in the zone working and then you have to wait. This helps to complete the loop from the operator to the engineer. Advertising - Seeing as how any part of that system could be bad there is some significant diagnosis required with a voltmeter. The issue is that after going into PTO mode about 4 times, it just stops working after that. Select one of the links below to begin your search. to be off and goes off when it's supposed to be on, install the other you will have to trace it back to the source, it could be coming from anywhere or just run a new wire from a power source. The large wire attached to the terminal on the motor will lead back to the relay. The six-sided PTO light switch, which screws into the PTO shift cover on electrical terminal in its center. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. goes down under the truck where road debris and a harsh environment often
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