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endobj These valves are used to start and stop fluid flow into hydraulic cylinders or hydraulic motors. The shape of these lower tines indicates that this grapple is not for digging out roots, but rather for picking up large piles of material already on the top of the ground. % As you curl the bucket, this bracket hits the underside of the loader boom, forcing it closed. Keep up the good work! It has worked well so far. My favorites are the Precision Mini-322 double-clamp if you like a short tine type grapple, and the Artillian if you like longer lower tines. I just got a response from them (Westendorf). Hi Jim, I have removed my Mower frame several times. 0000212341 00000 n However, the Titan is too much compromise in lift capacity for me. Love your videos; especially the service and upgrade ones. Not sure why you would seek my opinion AFTER you purchased. I like Longs bucket because it is relatively light weight and opens really wide. They havent yet sent me one yet. However, lets do some calculations to see how much impact this really has to the tractors useful lift capacity. << I am heading to their factory tomorrow (I am 1.5 hrs away) to pick up the pallet frame and forks. 287 0 obj So, ~700 lbs total including bucket (or grapple). I have the same jest ion as Scott. /OpenAction 286 0 R The modular options alllow an ultra light weight (single clamp) solution which I would have attempted to use on the huge rock we took out earlier this summer. The quick hitch is not strong enough to handle what the 1-series can throw at it. Makes sense. However, I found a better clip at Tractor Supply that works great and if you do lose a pin, they also have replacement pins. /Length 435 Very affordable. Tim, I wanted to ask if you had considered a 4-in-1 bucket instead of a grapple? Each of these are very good options. Search diverter in my videos. So, this grapple is by far the least expensive that we evaluate here. The number of cylinders or motors that a control valve can operate depends on the number of spools on the valve. Another challenge we must deal with are the hydraulics needed for the grapple. Pat, Yes, it helps very much. Why should it sell for the same price that I got my 2048 cutter?? I live in an area that is dominated by a JD dealer with 17 locations and one head salesman claims to see no need for them. 0000003556 00000 n Thanks. This reduction in usable lift capacity is not acceptable to me, so this grapple will not be making an appearance on Johnny. I tried to cover them, but perhaps I should mention the reconfiguration time/effort. 0000606659 00000 n You can view our Artillian test grapple in action here: There it is, the top 3 grapple choices that I know of at this point. Something like Artillian diverter kit install. Ive also ordered a Precision Manufacturing Mini Add-A-Grapple https://precisionmfg.com/mini/ This unit adds the grapple to the bucket and only adds 125 pounds of additional weight. Because it requires getting down on the ground several times to do this, I have made a couple of thing that significantly make this chore easier for me. Thanks for your comment Ken. Almost all viewers/commenters on this website are subscribers to our YouTube channel. Thanks and God Bless. At $1492 + $50 for JD mount, It comes in at less than the Artillian (I already have their forks) and its a dedicated attachment. On the negative side, the componetized approach adds a bit of weight to the most natural configuration (2 rakes plus one clamp) with this solution coming in at 243 lbs, with the optimal configuration (2 clamps, one rake) weighing in at 293lb. Just wondering if you have heard anything good or bad about this one. You said biggest deterrentwell, the biggest deterrent to me is that I can accomplish almost everything with the forks and bucket that would be accomplished with the grapple. The Precision grapple has either 1 or 2 independent clamps, the CTA grapple has a 1/2 width single clamp, and the Artillian has 1,2, or 3 independent clamps. >> Its not over yet, the worse is yet to come. The biggest difference is the need for a 3rd function hydraulic valve. Their grapple takes a modular approach, allowing the user many different configurations. Maybe that will help? 0000003722 00000 n Also his tractor is at the dealer getting the third function valve installed and sometimes its a whole lot more convenient to have an implement delivered and installed at the dealership so thats probably why he went ahead and ordered a land pride grapple through the dealership. Unfortunately, that is where the positive news ends. Either way your update comment at the top presented me with the thought to make my comment by your statement of as you likely know by now. I was refering to how would we likely know by now? /N 8 Kubota offers a 3rd function connector option for the BX line specifically for grapples, 4 in 1 buckets, etc. http://www.loaders.com/Brush-Crusher BC-3000 It a Westendorf Mfg Company product. I have the same question for Tim. Which in my case is $150 dollars. Did my previous reply to you (many months ago) rub you the wrong way? First, thanks for all the excellent advice and videos. I personally dont like the idea of using the Loader Arm as a reaction device. Im sorry Ive set you off. I ordered a GC1723E and the dealer told me they'd but a WR Long 3rd function on it but let me know yesterday that it only works for the GC1723EB (backhoe version) because the hydraulics are different. JavaScript is disabled. There is a thread about it on GreenTractorTalkand the sales guy I talked with posted there. I find this configuration lends itself well to sifting through dirt to collect roots and other debris. According to their online brochure, the 1025R is now available with a 3rd SCV for 2018. So your article was good but my thought was not to consider the weight of the attachment which would reduce the weight capacity. Do you have any experience with the Landpride? Pat, thanks for your comments. Please check our Frequently Asked Questions for more information about this kit! /ID [<9f48c58aad8d17c75660e0f3daaa3ec2><9f48c58aad8d17c75660e0f3daaa3ec2>] 0000606224 00000 n %%EOF I am torn between the three grapples listed, and could see good reasons to buy each of them. Living 20 minutes from Worcester makes it even more attractive.. 0000001552 00000 n For that reason, I did not include it in the original version of this article. Im adding a third function with the summit diverter on my gc1723eb as we speak. Youre stupid answer was Im not impressed. Thanks for keeping your videos clean and loving the Lord! And Im sure everybody except for you second guesses himself sometimes as to whether or not they made the right decision. I could easily see that you likely would stay away from comparing the price of a rotary cutter to the simplicity of a BC 4200 and why this grapple would be so expensive even it were absolutely true. Precisions double clamping model weighs in at 255 lbs. How deep is the rack and do you find that to be the right depth. It doesnt take too big of a log, concrete, etc to be 400lbs. I agree Tim. Quite a difference. 0000003875 00000 n 0000605827 00000 n The chart shows a tensile strength of 90,000 psi, vs. AR400s 177,000 psi. If this works, I suspect it would resolve my concerns. The thinking would be picking up cut brush much easier and more controlled to a burn location. The Artillian and CTA grapples have a bed which can be used to carry items even without clamping, and also provide the ability to dig a bit deeper, while the Precision grapple is designed to rake up debris and clamp down on those uneven loads of brush. /Prev 1515416 I am downsizing from a Kubota B3200. I have "the thumb" grapple. There is an extended piece of the BC-4200 which goes under the loader boom. Your site is a tremendous asset to the JD 1 series community and I applaud you for your efforts. xref Perhaps this is a topic for a future article. So, in addition to the weight, price, etc, prospective buyers need to predict the types of projects they will encounter with their new grapple. This is the biggest issue with grapples and sub-compact tractors. I need it more for large clumps of brush Ive cut down. I do have bucket forks that I want to replace so it should work for me.I talked with Tom at Attilian and he was very helpful. 0000605597 00000 n I had one minor problem. If I add any thing to this TRACTOR, being lights, or a grapple, and tap into the hydraulics, and it is not a Deere part number or implement, my warranty on this new tractor is null and void. Name is Glen Coble. 0000002262 00000 n It came with a John Deere backhoe and loader. Thank you Scott for asking it. I knew you were smarter than me. Weight would not be an issue. They have a light weight grapple suitable for my 40 HP John Deere for right around $1000, much less than most of the other grapples on the market. We post new videos twice per week. > I wasnt aware of your youtube channel. Deere announces new 260B Backhoe for 1-Series Tractors. The tone of your email shows some frustration, but Im having trouble understanding the source of the frustration. Make sense? It still costs $1050. At only 194 pounds its one of the lightest and with the longer lower blades, it can go under objects which youre trying to pick up. Additionally, I had already been in contact with the manufacturer, suggesting the idea that he allow me to demo one and publish on YouTube. /Root 288 0 R I just didnt like the idea of the diverter, though I know they work well. Up to three sections of any combination can be placed upon the fork frame providing at least 6 different useful configurations. Contacting the company may get a future show, fair or convention that would allow for a more detailed and closer look in the operation of the unit. Each of their grapple components mounts to the popular Artillian fork frame.The picture on the right shows the main grapple component, referred to as the Clamp Section. Loosing shingles and a tornado destroyed a few buildings in my local address. The 50 grapple is priced at $1500 + shipping, and the 55 is priced at $1625 + shipping. The one I was checking on is the BC3000. In April 2018 I took delivery of a JD 1025r. only 258lbs total. We live near Polebridge. I was just looking at the 1025R on the JD website. The biggest deterrent to me is the cost of the hydraulics. John will be put away for the storm in the brush tomorrow w/ attachments where there isnt larger trees. Im not sure if the steel is US steel or not, so dont push me too far, but at least they are constructed here in the states. Your response was well they havent sent one to me yet. Were you going to promote on a one to one sales pitch to prospective customers? However, when you purchase the grapple components, you almost have a set of pallet forks already included. While Tim certainly doesnt need my help. of Use, Excavator Attachments for Sale - Order Online. I just added a summit true 3rd function to my Gc1705. Id be surprised. And finally Im not sure why you even answered his question because you didnt give a definitive answer at all! I have watched most of your videos but didnt know it was something to separately subscribe to. Taking your comment one step further, that portion of the loader arm is not reinforced. Best wishes for the New Year and I look forward to seeing more of your entire family on TTWT. They have worked for all of the tasks I have here, but cant go to the next level of functionality because at least with the Artillian system it is the base needed to build up to the grapple even before the hydraulics. I bet Ken could come up with a bolt-on reinforcement plate. What do you think about the EA Compact Wicked Root attachment? Not JD QA. We had produced two videos about the grapple, so the update saying by now you probably know should probably have been stated as if you have been keeping up with our YouTube channel you probably already know In any case, sorry about that. Thanks for all your Videos. Certainly if you consider your lack of understanding towards my previous comment with your statement of believing that there is no way that they would send me a BC 4200 if they hadnt sent one to you. No, we live in the Northwest corner of Montana. I must say, for when I need, the 1025r is perfect. This grapple weighs more than double the weight of the rest of the grapples in this roundup. << Lighter-weight than a similarly configured Artillian setup, super-strong, and would do a great job of raking debris and sifting through the dirt for roots. 0000213807 00000 n Will, I do not understand your comment. Land Shark Attachments by Everything Attachments, What is Universal Skid Steer Quick Attach, Tractor Loader 3rd function hydraulic kits, Tractor Pine Straw Rakes | Pine Needle Rakes, Home > Tractor Loader Buckets > Compact Tractor Loader Buckets, Skid Steer Stump Grinders & Skid Steer Tree Shears, Tractor Loader 3rd Function Hydraulic Kit, Terms trailer I really wanted to see one in action. If starting from scratch, this grapple is by far the most expensive of those discussed in this article. I just bought a 2018 3046R with factory cab, loader, 72D mower, backhoe and 4 in 1 bucket. Tim. If I buy a grapple from third party, I cant imagine it affecting my warranty unless there is something about the grapple that adversely affects some other part of the tractor. The rear attachment is called a Heavy Hitch. There are advantages and disadvantages to the Artillian system. And the open cylinders are better protected and have a better looking hinge point. /Info 285 0 R Hi Tim, I hope this the correct place to put this comment/question. There are thousands of these tractors out there. In my opinion he made a good choice . I put the cab on myself, it wasnt too difficult for an average mechanic type. Copyright 2022 Sandhills Global | Reproduction without expressed written consent is forbidden. We dont hear many complaints about warranty service. Maybe you should find another dealer? 3. Understanding the BC 4200 and how it functions I can easily say, what on earth were they thinking.. CT can provide these close outs, or you can use 1/2 all-thread, or 1/2 steel rods. I find this terminology hard to compare with the more formal ATSM name (AR400) specified by Precision Manufacturing and Artillian. My thought is what would make you any more qualified other than a website? Of course, just like the grapple, you will have to add a third function valve to your loader. Always consult equipment operator's manual and follow safety instructions before operating or servicing any tractor or equipment, or attempting any task. Gotta say I cant stop going into the garage to look at it. It just attaches and works. 0000003964 00000 n Thanks for watching, Ken. A common example of a hydraulic control valve is the loader valve on a tractor. They are controlled by the loader boom. Yes its me again. The positive aspect of this grapple is its price. For the life of me I cannot find it now. The chat worked well, but it was confusing due to 800 coverage and bad voicemail for those numbers.They are limited for dealers in south east. Expect to take delivery on May 17th. > I never saw any video links to the grapple. 0000622703 00000 n or is it 2 rakes + something else.? Youre doing a very good service with your videos. I think you can buy Titan forks and grapple bucket cheaper than the Artillan set up and not have to remove the forks from the frame to slide on the grapple sections. Blessings. You must log in or register to reply here. Maybe well visit them sometime. Hope you find your needed answer. Huge purchase there. The jaws of the Mini 322 opens to a height of 36. and 1 third the price of artillain. 0000610660 00000 n Commercial financing provided or arranged by Express Tech-Financing, LLC pursuant to California Finance Lender License #60DBO54873. The price for the double clamping model, 322DBLSS, is $2245 after applying the TTWT10 coupon code for 10% off. All you need to add are the forks themselves (~$220 when purchased with the fork frame). Having said that, I do feel like we are highly qualified to receive demo product. We have a wide viewership on YouTube, with over 11 million views at this point. Which brings you up to roughly $3k (your results may vary based on choices since it is a modular system). Keep up the good work. > My thought is what would make you any more qualified other than a website? Good point on the bar to keep the lower arms from moving independently. Dont forget W.R Long for bucket, grapple needs. It works off John Deere FEL without modification and costs $1213 dollars plus shipping. Are you really willing to do that to save $300-$500??? This came from the dealer and it came from deere.I hope you and everyone else doing this all these mods dont ever need a warranty fix. The website states that this grapple is constructed with grade 80 steel. The Precision Mini 322 grapple is quite impressive. But build the 4-in-1 bucket a little different than most builders. We just dont have the time to write an article with every video. Financing approval may require pledge of collateral as security. 0000609033 00000 n Just tried my link to that I had posted on the first comment and it is broken sohumm.just use the: http://www.loaders.com and look for the BrushCrusher section of their website. (Perhaps I should add it to the roundup so that these points would be discussed.). But I ma sure if I had one, Id be wondering why I didnt get one sooner.. Tough choices. Liked this segment. Dont screw the clevis up or down while you are doing this or you will have to re-level your deck when you reinstall everything. He seems really passionate about providing quality products. We did not pay for it. << (close to Bowman Lake and Kintla Lake.) MF GC1723E COMPACT TRACTOR W/ HST PLATFORM, 18X8.50-10 FRONTS AND 26X12.00-12 REARS, FL1805 SS LOADER W/ 48" BUCKET, Notice: Financing terms available may vary depending on applicant and/or guarantor credit profile(s) and additional approval conditions. I do agree that the BC-4200 seems much simpler and less expensive than a grapple (any grapple). 0000614336 00000 n There are about 40 year round residents. I believe that might be the solution for powering your grapple when the finance committee finally approves it.

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