I man in Ohio painted this tractor and this is what he uses when painting tractors. I did use hardener in it and the color was a light grey so fading wouldn't be noticed anyway. After two years it's was more white than orange in places. Do not tack spray. With this experience I will never paint another tractor with an alkyd. }. First try it with no thinner. To answer your initial question, with an alkyd enamel you use as little thinner as you can to where it will go through your sprayer. a2/H^ap|)vw`hDj &!^V*DDH.# F/_^"D P0JzS%O0@ATN!u-LID$4KA!L>i&WkR:m}%/TWnH^x,}_J corner trowel outside 25d marshalltown 50d durasoft handle ^/ hazardous substances What about the ratio to the hardener?? If you delay,then you should probably wait 24 hours or so. While searching for the spec sheet I came across a couple of places that said the Arco paint was manufactured by Valspar. Probably why I don't use it, among numerous other reasons. It would need longer if cold. It's not an automotive finish. Let each coat dry a minimum of 24 hours between applications under ideal weather conditions of 77 F and 50% relative humidity. I think it's worth the money to purchase a automotive urethane, either Dupont Nason 2k or PPG Concept. Valspar makes many lines of paint, everything from quality paint that competes with PPG and DuPont, down to the 1930's alkyd enamel. In the 10 years I have been doing this, I have never had to modify anything. "width": 200, Using too much paint will slow the dry time. Also, if you were ever allergic to chicken meat, or eggs, stay away from those paint hardeners! Also, if you were ever allergic to chicken meat, or eggs, stay away from those paint hardeners! I was really thinking about buying Agco paint but might consider another type. Do not paint or allow tractor to dry in direct sunlight. It would stay completely wet for at least four hours. Add one pint of Majic reducer to one gallon of Majic tractor truck & implement enamel or Majic rust kill enamel. Its the instructions that should be on the can but there isn't room because of hazzard warnings in three languages and California's oppion of the product. Had to use a "baking liquid" but i can't remember how it was formulated--boss kept that recipe to himself. The last tractor paint I used was the Valspar Tractor Paint from Tractor Supply. It dries so slow that you don't have to worry about orange peal and will adhere to most primers. With this experience I will never paint another tractor with an alkyd. I did a little searching for Agco paint and it appears Agco is the MFG. Some are better than others though. Compared to todays paints, alkyd (snythetic) are poor paints and the differences in quality between brands are not surprising. Glennster is correct that an alkyd is a lot simpler to use. I could only conclude the Arco was a better product line of the crummy paint I used. If you are still talking about the alkyd, you should wait 24 hours at 70 degrees. % CANON_PFINF_TYPE2_TEXTOFF Any dust or bug in the county was sure to find it. xV@) TI+WhB):B>c!kF#jWbN)9,}}nL9=gdK*=gHC):iKaeyI$0={ub*k9sdI9es *=>1Dw:&Ng5&LcCKIQ/;!]79;7AB^%(7G]@r 8-abP3iV3pF"Gd0-aLJ0Y*/La'gcd!p?u`~J`;:nQXK$:sJ4(/dS[d,3X[,Z iw. He saw a complete job i had just finished, and complemented me on it. Compared to todays paints, alkyd (snythetic) are poor paints and the differences in quality between brands are not surprising. If it leaves a print, its not dry enough to recoat. hb``g``f```lla,Hxl(VC%7ll70n` Phs)Wu:7Ljm JTr4 Y83i@| endstream endobj 10 0 obj <> endobj 11 0 obj <>>>/Rotate 270/Type/Page>> endobj 12 0 obj <>stream The Agco paint is a little easier to figure out. }, The answer is very simple. endstream endobj 13 0 obj <>stream wear appropriate saftey gear, a disposable paint suit, nitrile gloves, and painters hood. Be sure you have a supplied air system to protect your lungs. And if you've ever had trouble with any of these colors, you're not alone. Tractors are tough, hardworking and dependable. Then he asked how i measured out how much to thin the paint. it does off u/v resistance so sun fading over time is reduced. it is readily absorbed thru the skin. it is easy to apply, even for a beginner, and pretty forgiving. The hardener will have a pot life of about 8 hours. it does off u/v resistance so sun fading over time is reduced. I've used enamels that would flash and had a recoat window but they were a synthetic enamel, not alkyd. I'd start gasping for breath, wheezing, and coughing, until i could drive around and keep my head in the air coming in the window, usually with some one else driving! I've never seen a alkyd paint that worked any different than house paint. Use only enough Reducer to allow the product to be sprayed. Until it was too late! Allow it to sit approximately 20 minutes before using. Glennster is correct that an alkyd is a lot simpler to use. I did use hardener in it and the color was a light grey so fading wouldn't be noticed anyway. Each different brand and product line has a different formula. Thanks, Ryan If you buy any of the name brand auto paint the instructions will be on the cans. If what you say is true, it would take me three days to paint a piece of sheet metal. there should be a spec sheet and msds sheets that come with the paint from your supplier. not of the same quality as an automotive line, but perfectly fine for painting a tractor, and well within most folks budget. Ryan My 2 bit's worth, if your tractor is worth the time and effort to do a quality job why Cheap out and have a tractor that in a year or two looks like it was painted 20 years ago and sat out in the weather ever since ? "height": 57 Aan air supply mask helps, but there is that one time you don't use it------ 10-15 minutes at 70 degrees--assuming quality paint. If you want it to look better than when new here's a WD45 painted with Martin Senours Crossfire paint. per quart. stop by a body shop supply and get some paint mixing cups. To answer your initial question, with an alkyd enamel you use as little thinner as you can to where it will go through your sprayer. I would only spray it at the end of the day and stay gone until morning. Lightly sand between coats using 350 grit sandpaper or scotch pad. Each different brand and product line has a different formula. If the paint is not dry-through, do not expose the paint to rain or dew. "interactionStatistic": { I've used enamels that would flash and had a recoat window but they were a synthetic enamel, not alkyd. magic jv tractor 8n I've never seen a alkyd paint that worked any different than house paint. Some paints do not give a time for recoating, then we are on our own. { It was developed in the 30's I think, and was the original "high gloss" paint, so it IS automotive paint, just not current. Its the instructions that should be on the can but there isn't room because of hazzard warnings in three languages and California's oppion of the product. After eight hours of use there was bare metal showing. I painted a utility trailer with Sherwin Williams All Surface Enamel three years ago and except for damages it still looks brand new. Alkyd and synthetic are the names for the same product. I am going to be painting a D17 IV. More than likely it will be somewhere around 2 oz. That's a recoat if you decide later on that you need another coat. stop by a body shop supply and get some paint mixing cups. If you are using an automotive paint, I would suggest you get a product sheet on the paint you are using from where you bought the paint. they are usually 1 quart cups with ratios marked on the side. I don't like alkyds either. "mainEntityOfPage": { Alkyd was used by body shops not too many years ago, perhaps even into the 80's. I guess he forgot the word experience . I suppose they had a heated drying booth, otherwise they would never get anything done. It would stay completely wet for at least four hours. "url": "https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/graphics/smllogo.png", Chances are a rattle can primer is lacquer type product with is only suitable for a lacquer topcoat. Who even makes Agcos paint?? As far as the hardener, the amount to use is probably on the can. Only you can decide if its worth a couple hundred dollars to not have to paint it again for many more years. Nobody is going to be able to answer your question. Any dust or bug in the county was sure to find it. endstream endobj 14 0 obj <>/Filter/CCITTFaxDecode/Height 1500/ImageMask true/Length 1604/Subtype/Image/Type/XObject/Width 96>>stream I aint trying to be cheap. "@type":"DiscussionForumPosting", Please use the navigational links to explore our website. "url": "https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/graphics/smllogo.png", The synthetic I was refering to, their name for it was quick dry enamel. It was developed in the 30's I think, and was the original high gloss paint, so it IS automotive paint, just not current. Tractor, Truck and Implement Paint, Gloss White, 1 Gallon, The average rating for this product is 4 out of 5 stars, Shop All Fencing, Livestock, & Pet Supplies, Shop All Sprayers, Pumps, Parts, & Accessories, Shop All Lawn Mower Blades, Parts, & Accessories, Add One Pint Reducer To One Gallon Of Paint, Use An Airless Sprayer With A Minimum Pressure Of 2000 PSI With A 60 Mesh Filter And Tip Size Of .013 - .017, Conventional Sprayer May Require 2 Pints For 40-50 PSI, Drying Time 5-10 Hours @ 77 Degrees F. And 50% Humidity. Its the instructions that should be on the can but there isn't room because of hazzard warnings in three languages and California's oppion of the product. Using Majic Catalyst Hardener will improve the mar resistance, reduce the dry time, and slighly increase the gloss. I welcome all answers!!! Use HVLP guns and set them to the manufacturers specs, and you won't have to mess with them either. Then the floor plate where I knew there would be a lot of foot traffic, I put six coats of paint on it letting it dry a week between coats. "@type": "ImageObject", I would also keep the lids on the cans until you do a lot of homework on the paint. The Case tractor I just finished painting, I used Nason 2k. +h>BTKH&&yP a_*tCH%mTT_h7,M)+J@.{mUk. Alkyd and synthetic are the names for the same product. This Majic reducer improves paint spray consistency. Each coat should be completely dry before applying another coat. identify tractor return antique help "@id":"https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=pbwork&th=23581",
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